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	<title>Comments on: Is Dean Foods (Horizon Organic) Killing USDA Investigation?</title>
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		<title>By: Anne Hawley</title>
		<link>http://politicook.net/2008/05/31/is-dean-foods-horizon-organic-killing-usda-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-3576</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Hawley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent! Thank you. What a great resource.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent! Thank you. What a great resource.</p>
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		<title>By: dsnodgrass</title>
		<link>http://politicook.net/2008/05/31/is-dean-foods-horizon-organic-killing-usda-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-3575</link>
		<dc:creator>dsnodgrass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gracias AHawley, very nice of you to provide the kind feedback. The check is in the mail. ;)


I fully agree with your statement about the DHS moving into turf previously under the purview of the USDA. The slow-boil that we have been experiencing which has been moving us from democracy to corporatocracy is troubling on many levels and the Plum Island situation is symptomatic of the big picture problem that comes with such a negative transformation.

On another note, I noticed that &lt;a href=&quot;http://politicook.net/2008/05/31/recommended-viewing-king-corn/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in a post by you today&lt;/a&gt; you made a recommendation to watch the excellent film &lt;i&gt;King Corn&lt;/i&gt;. In &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.celsias.com/2008/04/24/the-celsias-show-2008-earth-day-spectacular/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a previous episode of the Celsias Show&lt;/a&gt; we had an interview with Ian Cheney and Curt Ellis - the guys who did King Corn - about their new movie, &lt;i&gt;The Greening of Southie&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gracias AHawley, very nice of you to provide the kind feedback. The check is in the mail. <img src='http://politicook.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I fully agree with your statement about the DHS moving into turf previously under the purview of the USDA. The slow-boil that we have been experiencing which has been moving us from democracy to corporatocracy is troubling on many levels and the Plum Island situation is symptomatic of the big picture problem that comes with such a negative transformation.</p>
<p>On another note, I noticed that <a href="http://politicook.net/2008/05/31/recommended-viewing-king-corn/" rel="nofollow">in a post by you today</a> you made a recommendation to watch the excellent film <i>King Corn</i>. In <a href="http://www.celsias.com/2008/04/24/the-celsias-show-2008-earth-day-spectacular/" rel="nofollow">a previous episode of the Celsias Show</a> we had an interview with Ian Cheney and Curt Ellis &#8211; the guys who did King Corn &#8211; about their new movie, <i>The Greening of Southie</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Asinus Asinum Fricat</title>
		<link>http://politicook.net/2008/05/31/is-dean-foods-horizon-organic-killing-usda-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-3574</link>
		<dc:creator>Asinus Asinum Fricat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I am.</p>
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		<title>By: dsnodgrass</title>
		<link>http://politicook.net/2008/05/31/is-dean-foods-horizon-organic-killing-usda-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-3573</link>
		<dc:creator>dsnodgrass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was you? I saw that exchange in the comment section of the diary when it was happening and immediately assumed that it was an industry troll who was going after you. 

The good news in this is that the notion of genetically modified foods is a &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; tough sell - one that I don&#039;t think the Monsantos of the world will be able to overcome. 

You will never sound crazy when questioning genetically modified foods, and rightfully so...where is the long-term data to support the safety?

Let me say that term again: GENETICALLY MODIFIED FOODS. Who sounds crazy?

Support you organic farmers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was you? I saw that exchange in the comment section of the diary when it was happening and immediately assumed that it was an industry troll who was going after you. </p>
<p>The good news in this is that the notion of genetically modified foods is a <i>very</i> tough sell &#8211; one that I don&#8217;t think the Monsantos of the world will be able to overcome. </p>
<p>You will never sound crazy when questioning genetically modified foods, and rightfully so&#8230;where is the long-term data to support the safety?</p>
<p>Let me say that term again: GENETICALLY MODIFIED FOODS. Who sounds crazy?</p>
<p>Support you organic farmers.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Hawley</title>
		<link>http://politicook.net/2008/05/31/is-dean-foods-horizon-organic-killing-usda-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-3555</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Hawley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 22:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;DSnodgrass&lt;/b&gt;: I wanted to let you know that I listened to the podcast and enjoyed it very much. That&#039;s the best of what podcasting can be, in my view: news on important subjects and interviews with non-celebrity experts, covering ideas that the MSM won&#039;t touch.

Nice work! I&#039;ve subscribed to your feed and am looking forward to more podcasts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>DSnodgrass</b>: I wanted to let you know that I listened to the podcast and enjoyed it very much. That&#8217;s the best of what podcasting can be, in my view: news on important subjects and interviews with non-celebrity experts, covering ideas that the MSM won&#8217;t touch.</p>
<p>Nice work! I&#8217;ve subscribed to your feed and am looking forward to more podcasts.</p>
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		<title>By: Asinus Asinum Fricat</title>
		<link>http://politicook.net/2008/05/31/is-dean-foods-horizon-organic-killing-usda-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-3516</link>
		<dc:creator>Asinus Asinum Fricat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 18:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to get even more riled up, read my piece on DKos later about speculators pushing up staple food prices...I&#039;ll probably get trolled again by right wing shills....but I&#039;m ready for them. I&#039;ll post it here later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to get even more riled up, read my piece on DKos later about speculators pushing up staple food prices&#8230;I&#8217;ll probably get trolled again by right wing shills&#8230;.but I&#8217;m ready for them. I&#8217;ll post it here later.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Hawley</title>
		<link>http://politicook.net/2008/05/31/is-dean-foods-horizon-organic-killing-usda-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-3513</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Hawley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 18:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whew! Long sentence. Sorry about that! I get riled up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whew! Long sentence. Sorry about that! I get riled up.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Hawley</title>
		<link>http://politicook.net/2008/05/31/is-dean-foods-horizon-organic-killing-usda-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-3512</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Hawley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 18:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutlely wonderful article, DSnodgrass. I&#039;ve downloaded the podcast and will be listening as I tend my fledgling urban farm (a container of potatoes and three short rows of onions and beans) this afternoon.

Follow te money, indeed. Anything that is moved from a longstanding and (relatively) legitimate government agency to the DHS is, in my opinion, instantly and automatically the object of what &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Naomi Klein&lt;/a&gt; calls disaster capitalism: the hollowing out of the common wealth for private corporate gain, not only without regard for disastrous consequences, but seemingly in support of such consequences. Disaster makes people stupid and compliant--or so they believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutlely wonderful article, DSnodgrass. I&#8217;ve downloaded the podcast and will be listening as I tend my fledgling urban farm (a container of potatoes and three short rows of onions and beans) this afternoon.</p>
<p>Follow te money, indeed. Anything that is moved from a longstanding and (relatively) legitimate government agency to the DHS is, in my opinion, instantly and automatically the object of what <a href="http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine" rel="nofollow">Naomi Klein</a> calls disaster capitalism: the hollowing out of the common wealth for private corporate gain, not only without regard for disastrous consequences, but seemingly in support of such consequences. Disaster makes people stupid and compliant&#8211;or so they believe.</p>
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		<title>By: biscuit</title>
		<link>http://politicook.net/2008/05/31/is-dean-foods-horizon-organic-killing-usda-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-3491</link>
		<dc:creator>biscuit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 14:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, truth be known, there are shills all over dKos and not just in the food diaries. Comes with the territory. They control the discourse.

I had my first experience with shills when I had my own blog. It had to do with the Ward Churchill controversy. I had some info on Ward Churchill that I posted (in essence, the guy&#039;s full of shit and always has been), and a David Horowitz shill ended up not just on my blog, but using my postings through David Horowitz to justify getting rid of Native Am. Studies, any kind of ethnic studies programs, end affirmative action, etc.

I ended up just making all my posts on the subject private and shortly thereafter quit the blog.

Now, though, I know what to do with them. :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, truth be known, there are shills all over dKos and not just in the food diaries. Comes with the territory. They control the discourse.</p>
<p>I had my first experience with shills when I had my own blog. It had to do with the Ward Churchill controversy. I had some info on Ward Churchill that I posted (in essence, the guy&#8217;s full of shit and always has been), and a David Horowitz shill ended up not just on my blog, but using my postings through David Horowitz to justify getting rid of Native Am. Studies, any kind of ethnic studies programs, end affirmative action, etc.</p>
<p>I ended up just making all my posts on the subject private and shortly thereafter quit the blog.</p>
<p>Now, though, I know what to do with them. <img src='http://politicook.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Asinus Asinum Fricat</title>
		<link>http://politicook.net/2008/05/31/is-dean-foods-horizon-organic-killing-usda-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-3490</link>
		<dc:creator>Asinus Asinum Fricat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 14:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worth noting: AmericanRiverCanyon informed me yesterday via email that agri-biz shills regularly post on the DKos and jump on diarists who dare to critisce Monsanto and such companies! That would account why I got trolled earlier this week by pointing out the new Monsanto threat: GM sugar beets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worth noting: AmericanRiverCanyon informed me yesterday via email that agri-biz shills regularly post on the DKos and jump on diarists who dare to critisce Monsanto and such companies! That would account why I got trolled earlier this week by pointing out the new Monsanto threat: GM sugar beets.</p>
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